What would you call a New York State without New York?

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Hudson?

Today's (more than) somewhat ridiculous question: If New York City and the rest of the state divorced, what would you call the rest of the state?

This question came up during a conversation recently (obviously a very serious discussion). It was quickly decided that New York City would retain the name New York State. But what about parts upstate?

And would "upstate" even decide to stay together? We could see Upstate West and Upstate East also deciding it wasn't worth it to stay together. (It's a pop/soda thing.)

Yes, all very important questions.

Long Island: We're just assuming that Long Island would stay with NYC -- but a few years back there was legislation introduced proposing a study of possible Long Island secession. (insert your own joke here)

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Upstate America (h/t to Jimmy Vielkind for coining the phrase)

If New York City and the rest of the state divorced, which part would get legal custody of New Jersey?

Vermont is Green Mountains, New Hampshire from Hampshire, England, Massachusetts from the Native American words for "Great Hills" or "Many hills", and New Jersey from an English channel island, which leaves us with a general idea of where our name should derive from, our ancestry or geographical features. Considering there are 3 major areas of "New York East", the Adirondacks, The Capital District, and Catskills (Appalachian) Mountains it would be very difficult to find one common thread to tie the 3 together. In that case, I think Hudson may be most fitting. Otherwise we left trying to fit together the Dutch, English, French and Native American influences. So my choice is Hudson.

@katherine: Upstate American might work as a country -- but I'm not sure about the State of Upstate America.

@Bob: I think New Jersey gets shipped off to boarding school.

@Joe: Yeah, it's hard to pick some geographic feature to represent the whole state. I don't think using one of the mountain names would work for the rest of the state.

I like where Joe was going - New Hudsonland for the part above NYC. And, for the western section. Maybe - Syrochaloton? (Syracuse - Rochester-Buffalo-Binghamton)

Hudsonia and North Pennsylvania.

@Danielle: When Richard Florida was here a few years back he talked about how Buffalo, Rochester and Toronto were becoming an interconnected region -- which he then called TorBuffChester.

Canada.

Upstate would be "North New York" - like North and South Dakota/Carolina

West Vermont.

the obvious answer is New Amsterdam.

I'd go with "Niagara" and "Hudson."

Enlarged Beverwyck.It's a name that has everything.

Lucky?

Watertopia?

New Canada?

The Land That Pizza Forgot?

Newer York?

Fracklandia?

The Shire?

If needed, we could go back to the old name: New Netherland.

Albania!

@Paul - don't you mean "Smallbania"?

:D

Can't think of a good name otherwise, but I like the idea of NYC being kicked out. Can we just cut it off from the mainland and push it out to sea?

Romneyville

No way, uh-uh -- why do THEY get to keep the name and not the whole huge rest of New York? No way. WE get to be New York. THEY can be the state of Long Island (since that'd be the majority of its geography anyway).

No WAY. If New York City and Long Island were to become their own state, we get to keep the New York title by virtue of sheer numbers. They can be collectively called Starbuckia.

Shmew Shmork
The State Formerly Known as New York
East York/West York
Voorheesville
Erie and Hudson

Home.

Alabama.

Pennsylvania. Just Pennsylvania.

If we named it after Wegmans do you think they would finally come?

"If New York City and Long Island were to become their own state, we get to keep the New York title by virtue of sheer numbers."

Ummm...NYC + LI + Westchester/Rockland make up 63.5% of the population of New York State. So if you mean sheer numbers of residents, we lose.

New Amsterdam is good for the European angle. But what about something to go with the area's rich Indian history, Iroquois, Mohican, Mohawk? I'm sure someone really knowledgeable in the field could come up with something good.

Poor

New New Amsterwyk

CANADA

I say that the Upstaters should get to keep New York and that New York City, Long Island, and let's be honest, Westchester should just call themselves Long Island.
I like Hudson, but it sounds kind of odd as a state name. Maybe go back to our roots as a Dutch colony and call ourselves New Amsterdam or New Netherlands?

The-state-that-used-to-be-New-York-State-but-isn't-anymore-because-New-York-City-is-now-New-York-State-and-we've-lost-our-identity-and-we-haven't-come-up-with-a-name-yet.

There's also...

TBD

and

We could use a symbol like Prince did years ago.

New New Amsterdam

Hudson for upstate and Erie for the west.

Catirondacks or Catirondacia (using Joe's reasoning)

Roosevelt. One name to represent 3 significant historic figures.

Western NY would be a mix of finger lakes and the two great lakes. so some play on lakes would be a way to go. Probably naming it after a finger lake would be too much, or after a grape.

Eastern NY has two historic mountain ranges and two famous river valleys.

Maybe we can give Benedict Arnold his due and call it Benedictia.
How about Schuyler. I kind of like Schuyler

Any concatenation would be protested by at least one of the groups

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